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Old 18-10-2008, 10:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I guess the whole 'graphics' thing and 'handheld' controllers are copied too?!

Silly statement...Not like Xbox took Banjo Kazooe or anything :
Judging by the new game coming out, they can keep him

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Old 18-10-2008, 10:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
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solar you seriouse nuts and bolts looks awsume and took more like own



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Old 19-10-2008, 08:35 AM   #13 (permalink)
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"Nintendo copied us" eh? I have a word for ya Don Mattrick BULLCRAP!

Firstly, Microsoft didn't make their avatars, Rare have!

Secondly this "4D Boxing" came out in 1991..

The clincher that Nintendo still made them originally?

~ READ THIS ~ - Mii's have been 20 years in the making <2008 - 20 = 1988>

Up yours Don Mattrick, and up your Microsoft.. court adjurned!

I rest my case!

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Old 19-10-2008, 11:09 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Xbox "created" them, but sadly it has taken them all these years to realise they could have them as a dahsboard feature - something they realise after Nintendo has done it...besides, does the whole "mii" styled avatar dashboard feature really suit Xbox's style?

Yes, Rare working on the avatar system...oh dear. No wonder their games are suffering they are being sidetracked. Perfect Dark franchise ruined, now Banjo Kazooie. No wonder the the original BK is being released on Xbox arcade, because the new one is so shocking, and the people of Xbox need educating Kazooie once did more than whack people with a wrench.


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How do all of you "know" that the new Banjo Kazooie is terrible? It's not out yet is it?





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How do all of you "know" that the new Banjo Kazooie is terrible? It's not out yet is it?
Bunch of doubters I admit I'm not thinking of getting it, but I wouldn't say it was crap.. it's more like instead of Kazooie learning new tricks to enable us to get to different places ya just build a vehicle instead.. not all that different really


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I've only seen one video of it so far which didn't astound me, but it didn't look "bad" at all either.





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Wikipedia knows all.

Also, I can't find a mention of 4D boxing having customizable avatars? Just pre-made character representations? Wikipedia linky. Mobygames linky.

I don't care which came out first, just stop trying to prove it with inconclusive facts. (Directed at the argument, not WiiTalk posters who are awesome by default.)
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I laughed when i saw that video of the guy announcing them.

Apparently Microsoft are all about Innovation.
Maybe I was sleeping that day...
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Bunch of doubters I admit I'm not thinking of getting it, but I wouldn't say it was crap.. it's more like instead of Kazooie learning new tricks to enable us to get to different places ya just build a vehicle instead.. not all that different really
By my standards it is bad. 80% based on customizing vehicles and creating them = I am not interested in that. I enjoyed using Kazooie to fly, shoot eggs, whack enemies with her wings, and so on. As it is, all we will now get, is Kazooie using a wrench. Now if it was 20% vehicle use, that'd be fine. After waiting so long for a new BK and having them alter it like this is a let down. If they had another traditional Kazooie game in the pipeline for the near future, fair enough, but they don't. Not to mention, no whimsical Mumbo magic now..he is a mechanic...why not make a new franchise, or attach this concept to something like Jet Force Gemini which it would suit better.

And as you said, as opposed to using Kazooie, we use vehicles...so how is that Banjo Kazooie. It may as well be Banjo: Nuts and Bolts. Kazooie is essentially redundent. She also appears to have had her wings clipped. A character is essentially removed from a duo and made...next to nothing...in favour of using cars and planes, it is pretty different really.

Also, from videos I have seen, I see Banjo in a vehicle, which shoots off and then bounces around...it looks terrible. It is as stupid at Perfect Dark Zero's ragdoll physics - you die and boune around like rubber.

Also the fact remainds Rare could easily have made it more exciting for all by restraining the vehicle aspect to 20% at least, if that percentage it is enough for a watered traditional aspect present in Nuts N Bolts, it'd be more than enough of a percentage for a new aspect added in the form of vehicles.

If people enjoy it fair enough, but there is going to be a lot of let down people that could also have been enjoying it. Sadly Rare are dead-set on being creative and ground-breaking and thinking of themselves, and not their fans, which can be read within their interviews, with how often they refer to themselves.

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