oh dear.. ps3

[mewmaxwii]

PS3 are selling so bad that you could buy one right now!!!!!!! there are some ps3 on amazon.co.uk right now!!!!
i reckon its the cost thats the problem.

[wii_man76]

Originally Posted by mewmaxwii

i reckon its the cost thats the problem.

You think?!

[captainff]

I found this sales chart.......

I can't vouch for its authenticity or accuracy.

Personally I don't care for the idea of a 'console war'. You likes what you likes..

But it seems that the ps3 is outselling the Xbox not only now in like for like sales, but also in the first 2 months after each release, the ps3 beats the Xbox......

Neither comes anywhere near to the Wii though!!

[Carrera_C]

Before you start trashing the PS3 as a failure you may want to read this:
BBC NEWS | Technology | PlayStation breaks sales records

[rhyswynne]

That is true, but look at this:-

"More than a million consoles were shipped across Europe on launch day last week with 600,000 sold."

That means 400,000 were not sold. That's 400,000 they have made, incurred costs for, and have not recovered the cost. That means they could still be making a loss (60% markup on the actual costs needed for that to break even).

Wii on the other hand has sold (so far) every console it's made.

[captainff]

Originally Posted by rhyswynne

That is true, but look at this:-

"More than a million consoles were shipped across Europe on launch day last week with 600,000 sold."

That means 400,000 were not sold. That's 400,000 they have made, incurred costs for, and have not recovered the cost. That means they could still be making a loss (60% markup on the actual costs needed for that to break even).

Wii on the other hand has sold (so far) every console it's made.

Sony make a loss on EVERY PS3 that they sell. It costs more to make than they retail at........... so, not selling 400,000 is REDUCING their actual loss.

The widely talked about Sony business plan is to make profit in about 3-5 years through software and add on sales, unlike,say,Nintendo which makes a profit from day 1.

[rhyswynne]

Originally Posted by captainff

so, not selling 400,000 is REDUCING their actual loss.

How is that working? Say (for easy maths only) if they make it for £10, and sell it for £5. There are 400,000 sat in shops over the land, already made.

If they sold all million of them.

1,000,000 x (10-5) = £5,000,000 loss

However, they haven't. They've sold 600,000, but there are 400,000 that have been made, and not sold.

600,000 x (10-5) = £3,000,000

400,000 x 10 = £4,000,000

£3,000,000 + £4,000,000 = £7,000,000 loss

Although they are selling the PS3 at a loss, as soon as the machine is made, it is possible to recoup some of the loss. By not selling 400,000, they're not reducing their loss. On the contrary

That's what I believe anyway

[Killarapp]

It's not how many Ps3's they sell it's how many games those gamers buy.

Failure will only make Sony try harder such as their 'home' innovation.

[Carrera_C]

you've got to remember that all those PS3s that are sitting in the shops are none of Sony's concern. They've already been bought by the shop, so sony have made there money from it already.
And people are still buying them, sales haven't slowed much yet. And they will continue as there's a lot out there that want a PS3 but have to save up a bit for it.

[Lordi]

People will keep trying to trash the PS3 with all these facts figures etc etc but in 4 years time we all know that it'll be the biggest selling of the three.