Wii Euro Championships 2008

[Davie-Boy]

Originally Posted by FooFan

Russia 4 - 1 Greece

GG Davie, the game was closer than the scoreline suggests

gg foo was hard trying out a new team

I thought ill go for it in second half but finishing touches let me down

[nick1sufc]

Will there be another one of these? I was just starting to get the hang of holland......

FEVER- Lets be honest, I should have had 8, doesnt help I was playing 2 main defenders though (2 wbs pushed up :-p)

[Snefald]

Originally Posted by Snefald

Group D

Sweden - Spain 4-2
Sweden - Greece 3-0
Russia - Spain 0-2
Russia - Greece 4-1

Sweden 2 2 0 0 7-2 6
Spain 2 1 0 1 4–4 3
Russia 2 1 0 1 4-3 3
Greece 2 0 0 2 1-7 0

Games left to be played:
Russia - Sweden
Greece - Spain

Analysis

The situation before the last two games (correct me if I'm wrong, it is rather late here):

- If Sweden wins or draws they will win the group.

- If Sweden lose their game while Spain loses or draws, Russia will win the group.

- If Sweden loses and Spain wins then Russia, Spain and Sweden will all be at 6 points. This means that goal difference from the games played against each other (not including the Greece games) will decide. Sweden has +2 minus whatever they lose by. Russia has -2 plus whatever they win by. Spain will have 0 no matter how big their win against Greece is.

- If Russia beats Sweden by two goals and Spain wins then Sweden, Russia and Spain all have 6 points and an internal goal difference of 0. In this case most scored goals against each other will decide. Spain will be on 4, Sweden will be on 4 + any goals scored in the last game and Russia will have 0 plus any goals scored against Sweden.

- If Russia - Sweden ends 2-0 or 3-1, while Spain wins then Sweden will win the group followed by Spain.

- If Russia - Sweden ends 4-2, while Spain wins then Sweden will win the group and Russia and Spain will both be on 6 points and have the exact same internal goal difference of 4-4. In this case goal difference of the whole group is taken into account and Spain has to do better against Greece than the 4-1 that Russia produced.

- If Russia - Sweden ends 4-2, while Spain - Greece ends 4-1 then I don't have a clue what happens... rematch? coin flip?

Conclusions:

- Sweden: can afford to lose the game by two goals, no matter what happens and still go through. If they lose by 3 goals and Spain wins they will be knocked out.

- Spain: needs to get at least as many points in the last game as Russia. If they both draw or lose Spain will follow Sweden to the play offs. If Spain makes a better result than 4-1 then only the result of Russia beating Sweden by two goals in a game with eight goals or more (5-3, 6-4, 7-3 etc.) could send Spain home. If Spain wins by less than 4-1, then 4-2 in the other game would knock them out too.

In short: Beat Greece and Spain is almost sure to be in the play offs.

- Russia: Needs to get more points in the last game than Spain. If Spain wins they can still go through by winning by three goals, by winning by two goals while scoring more than 4 goals or by winning by 4-2 while Greece doesn't lose too big against Spain.

In short: Win by three goals and Russia is through, or win by 2 in a game with a lot of goals.

- Greece: is out no matter what.

[harryo]

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Originally Posted by Snefald

Analysis

The situation before the last two games (correct me if I'm wrong, it is rather late here):

- If Sweden wins or draws they will win the group.

- If Sweden lose their game while Spain loses or draws, Russia will win the group.

- If Sweden loses and Spain wins then Russia, Spain and Sweden will all be at 6 points. This means that goal difference from the games played against each other (not including the Greece games) will decide. Sweden has +2 minus whatever they lose by. Russia has -2 plus whatever they win by. Spain will have 0 no matter how big their win against Greece is.

- If Russia beats Sweden by two goals and Spain wins then Sweden, Russia and Spain all have 6 points and an internal goal difference of 0. In this case most scored goals against each other will decide. Spain will be on 4, Sweden will be on 4 + any goals scored in the last game and Russia will have 0 plus any goals scored against Sweden.

- If Russia - Sweden ends 2-0 or 3-1, while Spain wins then Sweden will win the group followed by Spain.

- If Russia - Sweden ends 4-2, while Spain wins then Sweden will win the group and Russia and Spain will both be on 6 points and have the exact same internal goal difference of 4-4. In this case goal difference of the whole group is taken into account and Spain has to do better against Greece than the 4-1 that Russia produced.

- If Russia - Sweden ends 4-2, while Spain - Greece ends 4-1 then I don't have a clue what happens... rematch? coin flip?

Conclusions:

- Sweden: can afford to lose the game by two goals, no matter what happens and still go through. If they lose by 3 goals and Spain wins they will be knocked out.

- Spain: needs to get at least as many points in the last game as Russia. If they both draw or lose Spain will follow Sweden to the play offs. If Spain makes a better result than 4-1 then only the result of Russia beating Sweden by two goals in a game with eight goals or more (5-3, 6-4, 7-3 etc.) could send Spain home. If Spain wins by less than 4-1, then 4-2 in the other game would knock them out too.

In short: Beat Greece and Spain is almost sure to be in the play offs.

- Russia: Needs to get more points in the last game than Spain. If Spain wins they can still go through by winning by three goals, by winning by two goals while scoring more than 4 goals or by winning by 4-2 while Greece doesn't lose too big against Spain.

In short: Win by three goals and Russia is through, or win by 2 in a game with a lot of goals.

- Greece: is out no matter what.

lets hope sweden and spain both win then.

[FooFan]

Nice one Snefeld!

I've got a lot to do then

We're due to play our match tomorrow night...

[Snefald]

This kind of reminds me of Euro 2004. Italy were in the same situation as Spain is in now, playing a team that is allready out (Bulgaria). If Italy won the game the only thing that could knock them out was if Sweden would play 2-2 against Denmark. That result would send both Sweden and Denmark through.

Italy managed to get a winning goal in the dying minutes, only to realize that Sweden - Denmark actually ended 2-2...

[Cash1]

Thanks Snefald.. I think my fantastic spreadsheet confirms all those permutations.

[JERVISOLIDIO]

Wow Snefald! Excellent work there - you could be Motson's statistician! Like Stoke, I will be working on set pieces before the game... :p

[Cash1]

Any luck with the last couple of games in Group D anyone?

[Davie-Boy]

greece 0-4 spain i think it was

I just couldnt score no matter what i did