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Old 21-11-2007, 12:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So Killarapp! long time no blogging, so why now at 1 in the morning on a Wednesday?

Well i've been busy getting stressed and annoyed with college and such and after a few hours of frenetically attacking my ICT project with a highlighter and the delete button. So I decided **** it, im going to explode if I don't get out the house or sit down and relax.

But alas its winter, nobody goes out in winter, (my mates are all unsociable since the introduction of msn...) and for the next few months my social life will be on the back seat for lack of activity and crushing amount of coursework and homework) We've all been there stressed and overworked, unless your youthful fresh meat like the majority of us here. Luckily those guys arn't writing blogs yet, and I havent had to give up mine yet from inactivity (Pried from the hands of my dead body of course)

So yes, like any gamer with common sense im overtly lusting after Super Mario Galaxy, its not a case of I would like but a case of I WANT, allas Im forced to wait till I hit my 18th, which is so close to xmas it may as well be xmas. So I found myself rummaging for something to whip up my appititite, to stop me going on some inevitable stressed frenzy but whats out there like Galaxy?

Reality nothing, not because Galaxy is undoubtably original but because platformers seem to have totally declined on home consoles. The last major release of a platformer would be Super Mario Sunshine (whenever that was)
and that game has gone down as a dissapointment (not sure why)

It seems like the generation before this (PSX/DC/N64) we couldn't find enough of these 3d platformers. Mario 64 kicked off the party for Sony's two mascots Spyro and Crash Bandicoot of (insomniac games and naughty dog studios respectively) both to become successful francises that would after a trilogy of great games be sold for slave labour to apathetic or simply idiotic firms that killed them with an overdose of cuteness and too little common sense.

But the creators of those two titans sold their guns for a reason, to create new licences Ratchet and Clank and Jak and Daxter. These formed the first major innovations in the platformer genre for many years. Albeit they really just added guns and ripped GTA to peices respectably but they did it with an element of humour and finess. There was also a more teenage orientated feel to these series, compared to the Spyro and Crash series of old, it was like we were growing up with these two developing firms and it felt good. We were the Sony generation.

And i'm stuck where to go from here, these licences are still going but platformers are few and far between. Mario Galaxy will mark the most significant platforming release since 2001 and thats pretty sad in the grand scheme of things. Not that the golden age of 3d platforming games was that golden, just a load of Crash / Spyro and Mario 64 ripoffs but at least they existed. Platformers were fun on the element they were just paying homage to the classics with enough playability to be entertaining. What happened, why did they die?

Profitability, platformers never really sold. The big 3 we mentioned before may well have but Ratchet and Jak never matched the popularity of their predeceasors, fading off to obscurity sometimes not even reaching platnium status. And the gamers? we got bored of the platformers and gained an unhealthy obsession with the second world war and inner city gun crime. The GTA series was seen as the biggest revolution since Mario 64 and nobody has really looked back. Sandbox games are everywhere and so are FPSes now the more powerful technology allows for such realistic things, and as for the simple easy and cheap to design surrealism of a platformer, well I miss them terribly don't you?


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Old 21-11-2007, 12:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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oh i do!!! i was thinking about this the other day! with the release of crash of the titans bringing me back to the glory days, i was more of a spyro then crash guy as it happens! but i still miss them deeply,

i miss the old days, it was only sunday when i was round my girlfriends dads and she has her ps1 set up and we sat there playing golden oldys like abes oddessy and rayman! (well she was playin i'd sort out a problem and she'd whip the remote outa my hand everytime!)

but still i miss platformers hopefully one day we'll have them back to they're former glory!

nice blog killarapp!
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Old 21-11-2007, 01:11 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Nice blog - I was thinking something similar (though not quite as eloquent!) when I played Sonic 1 a couple of weeks back. Maybe the lack of them is why I felt the need to download Sonic etc.


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Old 21-11-2007, 06:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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There were Saturday mornings when all I could find were platformers in the CPC tape rack in WHSmiths - ooooo, those were the days

I confess to having been immersed in Rayman on the DC - but never managed to get through the last level. Maybe I'll dig it out this evening....



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Old 21-11-2007, 08:24 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I would have said you have to go back a generation further to the Snes and Megadrive to find the golden age of platformers.


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Yes, platformers have gotten abit lonely recently. I mean their still being made (crash, Spyro, Mario, ratchet and clank) But I have to admit many of them aren't as good as before :(

One other theory that they've disapeared is that you've simply grown up. Although I will get Mario Galaxy I still think it's a bit childish.

Couldn't you argue that Zelda and Resident evil are platformers (well more Zelda than RE but you get the jist)



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But I have to admit many of them aren't as good as before :(
"Once in every generation one is chosen.. .. .. .. " to paraphrase the beginning of a popular TV show. Once you've had a moment of inspiration and created games like SMW and SMB3, which are genre defining, it is almost impossible to ever top or re-create that. Everything that comes after will always be referenced to those great games.

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One other theory that they've disapeared is that you've simply grown up. Although I will get Mario Galaxy I still think it's a bit childish.
Mario Galaxy childish? How exactly? Yes, the early levels are a bit easy as it teaches you to use the wiimote and interact with the different objects, but this is not a kids game. The difficulty level is there in spades in the later levels as you are forced to think as well as have good reactions.

I think that, as with all things, tastes and fashions change. Following on from the success of Galaxy there will be a number of games that imitate the 3D aspect of the levels as the public has shown that it is still prepared to buy this type of game. Until recently however the console market has been dominated by the Xbox and Playstation and the type of game prevalent on those systems. Whether it is right or wrong, the perception is that these systems are aimed at young males who want driving and FPS games. With the Wii breaking that control of the market there is now a wider audience for a different type of game.. .. ..


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Old 23-11-2007, 05:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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There are quite a few levels on Galaxy that effectively look like a "3d-fied" traditional 2d platformer (one of them uses background arrows to indicate direction of gravity....genius).

Super Paper Mario also is a "twist" on a traditional 2D platformer.

New Super Mario Bros is a GREAT 2D incarnation on the DS

VC is there to relive the past, but if you want new incarnations, you can still get them. One of the best cross platform 2D platformers I've played in ages is called Cave Story (Doukutsu in Japanese)....osx/linux/win/ds/etc
....so they're still being made (albeit in ever smaller numbers).

However Killarapp, I agree with the gist of your thread. I think that, even within Nintendo (the only company left that is still developing this particular genre on both it's platforms) I can see a future where 2D platformers have gone the way of the dodo...similar to how 2D shooters like Space Invaders have.

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Old 18-12-2007, 08:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Rayman and Spyro were awesome games. I think what the video game developers forget is that not only are kids and the gaming market 'maturing' in a sense, people still love to go back and just have some childish fun.

Crash Bandicoot's spin, lol.
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I love the platform games too, especially Spyro but as Ive got older and the spin offs have been released, I just started to find them less entertaining...
I played a few Crash Bandicoots and like them too, but havent played the latest versions so cant really comment on anything there.

I am going to get Ratchet and Clank cos I really like the idea, and I thought the design of the characters was similar to Spyro (thats why I originally looked at it)

Has anyone played on R+C and thought it was good to have its own spin-offs?

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