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Old 28-12-2007, 08:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Happy hols everyone .

This mini-break has, I'm sure given people more time to play with their Wii's. Well Ninty has coincided this time with 2 revelations. One is the Gift section on VC.
'Tis the season to be giving and all, have any of you tried this yet? I have, and I must say it's a great feature which is really well implemented.
For my bro's B'day, I used 600 stars to buy Blazing Lazers (TGfx-16), and gifted it to him.
Here's how it works: Go into the shop and buy the game you want. If you have an up-to-date Wii, you will see 2 buttons, buy and gift. Choose gift and after confirming, you'll be prompted to select the person in your address book you wish to send it to. Once selected, you are given the opportunity to write a short message.
Now send. You're done .
The beauty of this is that Ninty check the recipient doesn't already have the game (if they do, you'll be returned to the shop and asked to choose another). Additionally, the game will stay on their "server/system" for 40 days or so....after which, if it is unclaimed by the recipient it is automatically cancelled and you're refunded.
My bro downloaded his the next day and had the option of sending me a return note with it - Nintendo have thought it out quite well.



The second thing that Nintendo have done is institute the Stars-Points scheme (finally).
Judging by the number of threads about it on here, you all know how it works (or doesn't )......so I'll cut to the chase:

1: What is it with the "limited numbers available per day"? What a PITA . The codes are electronically generated. I understand that new ones need to be generated by an algorithm, but what are they running that algorithm on?....a ZX81 ? I mean seriously, it should either have codes generated on the fly in real time or at the very least only take about 5-10 min with a decent processor.

2: What is it with the "only buy 1 card per day"? As above, I'm at a loss here . This just seems like blatent idiocy on Ninty's part, although I understand why they've done it - they're hoping this will limit purchases so that others get a fair go and also those with older star totals get expired as they "waited too long" to buy (or am I just being cynical ?)

3: In a complete reversal, the other thing that hacks me off is the general attitude of the Wii owning public......yes, the whingey moany gits congregating to piddle about why they find it soooooo unfair that they can't buy cards (like I've just moaned above ). Remember folks, IT'S ALL FREE.
I can understand paying for a telly and it not arriving, but "waaaah, I can't claim my FREE stuff, I want my mummmmmmyyyyyyy" just doesn't wash with me I'm afraid .
Yes, it's implemented badly by Nintendo......but so what? If you want something that badly, go buy a points card .

4: The conversion ratio is WHAT? Finally, I can't understand why everyone is so excited by it anyway.....it's OK, but it's not exactly a fantastic deal here is it? I did some maths to figure out our "savings":

Average price of game = £35 (I'm being generous )
For each eligible game (currently only those published by Nintendo or Capcom - not licensed, published), you get a measly 250 stars.
This equates to 62.5 points.
Now, 100 points costs 70p (if bought online from the Shop Channel).....so this 62.5 points equates to a mere 43.75p.
Lets be generous and round that up to 44p shall we? .

Overall, for every £35 spent on a Wii game, Nintendo give us back 44p.
Well whoop-e-do-ray Hallelujah. Quick, tell the press, this is a steal I tell's ya.....A STEAL .

I mean, get a grip.....it probably costs more than 44p in petrol to make the trip into town to buy the bleedin' game in the first place......and here's lots of peeps clamouring over a "1.3% cash-back system" that Nintendo have introduced.

Don't get me wrong....if you have plenty of useless stars lying around to burn (which I did too ) then it's a great way to use them up.
.....but at those rates it's hardly the end of the world if you don't.
After spending 600points on Zelda:aLttP (GREAT game) and 600 on the gift, I can categorically guarantee that, with hindsight, if I hadn't had been lucky enough to be able to exchange them, I would've simply bought a 2000 points card and used that instead......
So I now think it would be better for NOE to offer us BETTER merchandise in the Club Nintendo shop instead (because if I want points, I'll just buy a card - the Club NOE things are unavailable elsewhere). Stuff actually worth owning. Physical objects worthy of purchase rather than just crappy T-Shirts and hats.....pens and keyfobs etc etc.

Come on Nintendo - level up Club Nintendo Europe on a par with Club Nintendo Japan. I'm tired of seeing Special Edition this (eg DS Games) and Special Edition that (eg Yellow DS consoles) on the Japanese site and then seeing a crappy little "pull back toy" I could probably buy in the local market for the fifth time over here. Please stop offering me useless desktops and mobile wallpapers....I can make my own for free thanx .
Was I the only person on this planet to be completely unimpressed by the best they had to offer - a poorly made statue of Link made in "oh so impressive" fake gold ? ----Something that at the rates they want, I would've had to buy over £2000 worth of games to be able to get?????????
The reason everyone is clamouring for the points (and, apparently, crashing their servers - half the time they're down/offline/"undergoing maintainence") is because people have no choice. The alternative is the utter drivel on offer in Club Ninty's Euro shop.

Come Nintendo.....pull yer finger out!





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......and HappY NeW YeAr by the way (the post might indicate I'm feeling grumpy but I'm actually in a humurous mood today - have a good'un everyone).

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Old 28-12-2007, 08:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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after reading this, i think i agree near enough 100% with everything lol
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Old 28-12-2007, 08:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah good blog Gaffer, some good points made.

I don't think that '1 a day' thing has been in place since the very beginning, because I managed to get 2 lots of 300 points when they were first introduced, so it sounds like that was brought in to ease the demand.

Although the coversion does work out to be pretty poor... it's still something for nothing! So if you buy wisely and get your games a few quid below RRP, not only are you saving on that front, but you're still getting the same amount of stars. With all the games I have bought, that also came with a points card , I have only managed to afford one 600 point game... But it is one more game than I would've had if the system wasn't there!

I'm not too fussed about the physical stuff personally, but I can see how it must be annoying for those that are...especially as Japan are getting very decent stuff.

I'm sure it will improve with time though


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Old 01-01-2008, 12:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes, I hope so.

I actually really want the ability to get decent DS games myself. When the Game&Watch Collection appeared in Club N Japan only, I got quite annoyed, as the originals where available worldwide so it was a bit unfair that the rest of us didn't get the chance to buy them direct..



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Old 01-01-2008, 12:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I agree mate.

This sounds on the surface like somebody is complaining about something for nothing. But that isn't the point. The pint is whilst we do get offered a few stars/points for out Nintendo wii purchases - We don't get any Limited Europe only stuff which would make the world envy us.

Then again Ninty hates Europe remember? I do wish we had a propper known representative over here :(..


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Old 01-01-2008, 01:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Good blog.

One thing I have to add (which I doubt many have tried yet) is a bit more of a grumble on the publics behalf. Ok, I have 700 wii points, that means I need one more 400 star thing to register. But I didn't have any left so I used my friends old RE4 stars. This was VERY fustrating - Nintendo wouldn't let me use the RE4 stars as I've 'already registered the same game on my account' - or words to that effect.

So basically, you can't exchange 2 of the same game! How annoying, especially if you re-buy a game (which people do). How does this affect Ninty anyway? It would only show that people have bought more than 1 copy of the game which can only be a good thing?!

Anywho, I made a new VIP account, registered the points (which I got X2 for as it's my first star register ) With this I had to add all my old account points, then re-link my new accounts points. (very confusing I know) which was very annoying and time consuming. It also meant I had to buy 100 stars only!

Although this sound extremely annoying and idiotic, it still advantaged ME! HEHE, you see - without the new account I wouldn't have the X2 register bonus this means I couldn't afford a 800 star game. This means that within Ninty trying to control a small problem (people registering the same game on thier one account) it still means you can abuse the system and make multiple accounts which means X2 points, which means the jokes on them! (although it would be a bit time-taking doing this technique)

To bad I found this out on my last star batch!
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Old 01-01-2008, 01:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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This was VERY fustrating - Nintendo wouldn't let me use the RE4 stars as I've 'already registered the same game on my account' - or words to that effect.
Urr that doesnt make that much sense?

i fail to see why nintendo would let you register more than one copy of the same game. as im sure ive heard of people at a game shop taking the points cards out and registering them them selfs.
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Has anyone from the UK been able to exchange stars for points??..



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Has anyone from the UK been able to exchange stars for points??..
Yep, i have... swapped about 3000 stars in total... not many... but still
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@scotty: Perhaphs because it means every star registered on NintendoVIP.com means that a Nintendo game is sold?? Although a very SMALL amount of people will rob stars, it's still worth it on Nintendo's level to see how many games they've sold.
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