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Old 23-05-2007, 01:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Following on from my previous worries about the Wii overheating very occasionally, I gave some thought to how I could prevent any problems in the future.

The main problem, as I see it, is that when the console is consistently pushed to it's limits, over a long period of time, this combo can result in high heat emmission from the GPU which can't be expelled by the (weak) internal fan fast enough. Hence, the system will seemingly hang/crash (as it has done to a few people). It also may be the reason why some people have experienced GPU failures resulting in returns to Nintendo for repair/replacement.
Note, that I believe you need two conditions to be fulfilled here, both intensive workload for the GPU, along with "sustained over a long period of time"...
...which means that graphic unintensive games like WiiSports can be effectively played forever...
...whereas graphic intensive games like Heatseeker (on Ace setting where there are many more "objects" flying around that all need to be processed) may give a system hang if the GPU continues to have high demands placed on it for a long period of time (> 1 hour continuous).
It also implies that if you're on a graphic intensive level for maybe 1/2 hour, but then for the next 1/2 hour the GPU doesn't have to work as hard, then you probably won't have a problem (remember, this is all educated guesswork from me that I think makes sense......it isn't something from a nintendo press release or anything ).

The point of this is ?.......
Well, one way to try to help things is to improve the airflow through the unit. This can be attempted easily and cheaply by buying one of the many USB fans/console stands available from Ebay.

This is the one I bought from a US ebay shop:


The cost including shipping came to the princely sum of £4
Shipping itself took 10 days (which is about standard for international orders it seems, as HK items also usually take about 10 days to get to me).
Contrary to the crap blurb on the packaging, it has NOTHING to do with making things "run more smoothly". It's only function is to provide more cooling to (hopefully) prevent system hangs.

As you can see from the second piccie, it's a snug fit, is powered by USB and also has a through port (so that overall, you're not "losing" any ports from the Wii itself), has a bright led to indicate it's on (I'm half tempted to mod that to a blue one ), and (most importantly) has an off/on switch as well.

Now, the USB ports on the Wii are only powered down when it's unplugged/in red standby mode. In yellow or in green/on mode, the USB ports have a current, so the switch on the fan is useful if you want to leave WC24 on, but have the fan off at the same time.

A big issue on these fans is how loud they are. I took the liberty of taking some readings (all at 1cm from the front of the console, meter set to slow response, C weighting):

Wii on (in home screen) --- the internal fan is actually quite weak. The rear exhaust doesn't even have what I would call a breeze jetting out....more like a gentle "silent fart" in intensity . Additional noise = +1dB.

Wii with this external fan switched on --- this fan is a lot stronger....I would say at a rough guess (from the amount of air being expelled) 4-5 times more powerful than the internal alone. Sound Level now = +9db.

So that's a noisy fan in comparison . However, to put things into perspective, I took another reading ---> When you turn the Wii on, you hear 2 "zzzzzzzzz" sounds as the disc drive intialises. Well the noise level of the disc initialising sound on it's own (external fan off) is a whopping +13db. So the fan is somewhere in between your Wii when powering up, and your Wii when fully powered up in terms of noise.

Does this make a difference in practice ?......
The most important issue is to how this affects playing. Well, if you're like me and usually only get a chance to play at late night (and therefore use headphones to listen to avoid waking others ) then fan noise isn't an issue. Similarly, playing normally sans-headphones, but playing a loud game like Heatseeker (with lots of explosions) it again isn't really an issue as the TV drowns it out quite well. However, I also had a quick go at Zelda, and there are areas in the game where little is happening and you're simply moving between areas or exploring and then, yes, the noise is quite intrusive.

What about temperature reduction (after all, that's why I got it ) ?......
Since getting it, the Wii hasn't hung once (bonus)......but then again that's not really conclusive evidence as there was no guarantee it would have hung again anyway (as I said at the beginning, system hangs are a rare occurrence on the Wii). Judging by the airflow with the fan, it's logical to suggest that it must be doing at least some extra cooling because more air is now moving through the unit. Additionally, the air expelled from the Wii itself after the fan has been on for 1/2 an hour does seem to be slightly cooler for a time so I'm pretty sure it's doing it's job quite well.

Pros:
Very cheap.
Looks like it is part of the Wii.....blends in very nicely with the console.
Doesn't require additional power as it's powered from the existing USB port.
Has an on/off switch to allow you more control over it's use (yes, I know, it's only an on/off switch, but no other fan I've seen has one and it is very useful ).
Provides about 4-5 times more airflow through the unit (at a rough guess).
Effectively doesn't "use up" any ports as it has a 'through port' in it.

Cons:
Very loud - whether it's intrusive or not depends on what game you're playing / what you're doing.

Overall:
Looking good so far and is great vfm too.....only time will tell if it's really effective though.....i'll keep you all posted on any developments (it may turn out to be useless at preventing systems hangs after all and so just be a waste of £4 ).
Meanwhile, here's another review (video) of a different model (which, btw, actually sounds a LOT louder than my one)...




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Old 23-05-2007, 08:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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u write too much

its known as waffel :p


as a test why dont you try running heatseeker for a couple of hours with the fan off and on at seperate occations ... if it doesnt then try monitoring the temperature?
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Previously, it's hung about 5 times with GPU intensive games........so far with this fan nothing

Probably too early to tell......as mentioned, it may freeze tommorrow (in which case i'll know if my theory is wrong or not )



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In an effort to reduce noise (and because I can't help tinkering ) I decided to do something about the noise from the fan. The noise would arise from either a loose fixture, noisy bearing, or just be wind noise.

Loose Fixture: I took the case apart and noticed that the actual fan is mounted via 3 points. However, there was only one screw...the other two holes were empty (see maroon arrow).

To secure things better, I used Blutack (good ol' blutack ) to serve as extra adhesion (see blue arrow in second example) as well as find two other similar screws to ensure that all mount points were catered for and the fan was better mounted.

Noisy Bearing: With the fitting sorted, I ran the fan without replacing the case and found it to be very very quiet....no need to do anything here then .

Wind Noise: This left wind noise as a problem. Noise increased when replacing the casing which suggested that turbulence was creating a lot of the noise.
One issue is that internally, there is a "cavity" where the circuit board is which acts as a pocket, creating more turbulence and reducing effficiency of the fan. So I taped over it with silver tin-foil tape (see green arrow).

I chose tin-foil tape as the wind coming out is fairly warm-hot so I needed a temperature resistant jobbie (plus, this tape is quite thick and sticky).
With the hole taped, wind noise was slightly reduced when the casing was reapplied. However, the final thing causing turbulence was the excessive "bars" across both the inlet against the Wii and the outlet. I simply removed most of the bars on the inlet side (as this is against the Wii case, so wouldn't be accessible) and also removed alternate bars from the front side (see orange arrows) to increase space for airflow (and thereby avoid enough gap that would allow small fingers to enter).

Overall: 15 minutes to do and yes, it does reduce fan noise noticeably .

EDIT: just for completeness, noise level with my mods is now only +7dB with fan on.......which is a 2dB cut in the loudness

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UPDATE:

Right, well the fan started making an odd noise the other day.
To cut a long story short, I traced it to the fan itself. The bearings needed to be oiled (which I did - quietened it down massively).....



.....but whilst it was all lying open and disassembled, I decided to do a further minor mod purely for a laugh :

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


...yes, I know, adding an internal light is completely useless but it's fun to do all the same .



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