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Old 17-05-2007, 10:11 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I didn't make the inference to the country of origin. Did you misquote, or did you mean something else?
The whole point of this thread was that it doesn't matter which country your card was made in hence the title "Made in Taiwan or made in Japan?" it is the speed of the card you need to look at and not which country it was made in.

You then started going on about Digital Cameras so it seemed you had missed the point that Gaffer74 was trying to make!

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Old 17-05-2007, 10:24 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I wasn't "going on about digital cameras", I mentioned it ONCE to put what I wanted to say in context. And no, I got the point. I just thought it was hardly scientific (to say the least) and the data set was WAY too small. To test 4 cards from different countries and manufactures and try to make the point in the subject is, well, pointless, hence I ignored it. My suggestion was to try and bring the numbers up a bit so that the cards that he had access to were tested a little more accurately.

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Old 04-10-2007, 02:02 PM   #13 (permalink)
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@ TheCoda - You're wrong I'm afraid. There is nothing "un-scientific" about this test. It may not be the most exhaustive one in the world (hence my saying so), but that doesn't make it invalid.

Look, let's say the OS caches all 13Mb into RAM first, and THEN transfers it all to HD.
It doesn't matter in the context of this particular test as it will do the same with ALL the cards. It won't "pick and choose". Therefore, caching into RAM will NOT be a variable....it will be a constant across the cards.
HD read/write speed will NOT be a variable....it will be a constant across the cards.
Card reader read/write speed will NOT be a variable....it will be a constant across the cards.

I think you've failed to grasp the basics of how to conduct a test properly .
The whole point is to reduce variables you don't want (in this case only leaving the ones I do - card speeds) and reduce other things like confounding factors......which by ensuring that the OS/HD/RAM/Reader etc is all the same and utilised the same way across the board means that I have .

The ONLY thing that using 100Mb would do is to reduce the error in specifically calculating the speed (ie give a more accurate "to the decimal point" value). However, it WON'T alter enough to alter the basic rank of slowest -> fastest that I have demonstrated above (ie, they're similar).
As I only intended to show a rank to debunk the myth of "one country always being faster than another", and didn't require speed times accurate to the nearest 500 decimal places (2 will do, which is what I have), then 13Mb is enough for this.
Plus, commercial programs that calculate speeds for you utilise MUCH less than 13Mb and cope fine. A homebrew app on my DS performs the test (on the inserted flash card) with moving only 512b, 4Kb or 16Kb and gives consistent results across the board....

So no...you don't NEED 100Mb, it won't alter the basic results I have given above.



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Old 04-10-2007, 02:39 PM   #14 (permalink)
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To bring this up again after what 5 months...? Geez, where's the "unsubscribe from old pointless thread" button?

Edit: Dont worry, I found it.

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To bring this up again after what 5 months...? Geez,
I only just saw your pointless addition at the end....it is a discussion after all...... never mind

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where's the "unsubscribe from old pointless thread" button?
Edit: Dont worry, I found it.
So pointless that you couldn't resist replying eh?

Oh well...I give up. Bye then



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