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Old 02-05-2007, 09:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Power Consumption figures for the Wii

Has anyone noticed that the Wii tends to run VERY warm if left on "yellow standby"?

It's alarming to the point that a very very small proportion of Wii'ers have had problems with their graphics chips overheating, resulting in a return and replacement by Nintendo .

For those who are not sure what I'm talking about, there are 3 states of play in the Wii settings and three possible colours for the power LED:

Wii is switched on. Internet connection may or may not be on/off = GREEN
Wii is powered down, but internet connection is active = YELLOW
Wii is powered down, and internet connection is off = RED

or, put it another way, in the system setup screens of the Wii:

Internet Connect 24 is off = Wii has a GREEN light when on, but no internet; Wii has a RED light when off, and no internet.

Internet Connect 24 is on AND standby connect is off = Wii has a GREEN light when on, and also has internet; Wii has a RED light when off, and no internet.

Internet Connect 24 is on AND standby connect is on = Wii has a GREEN light when on, and also has internet; Wii has a YELLOW light when off, and internet is still connected.

(ie, the standby connect setting only has an effect if WC24 is switched on in the first place).

Confused yet ?


After reading the horror stories, I decided to turn the "Standby Connection" feature off. It also means that the Wii wouldn't be getting updates "behind the scenes", but the benefit would be that it would not heat up during non-use.

As the Wii therefore runs hot or cold depending on the settings, it must mean that this has 'power' implications and it got me thinking about how much power the Wii draws in each of its modes...so I did a little test...and here are the results.

So, when the LED is RED (ie Wii on standby), its drawing about 1W of power.

If you then put it into YELLOW (ie standby but internet active) it draws 10x as much power at 10W

When its GREEN (switched on), it draws 18-22W...it peaks at 22W when it boots, but not when its accesses a game (where it's stable at 18W)...so a nice round figure would be 20W (I work with simple numbers )

So, unsurprisingly, it consumes 20x as much power in GREEN as opposed to RED modes. However, the surprising figure is that in YELLOW mode (supposedly a different form of standby) it's still drawing 10x as much power as it would if it were in RED mode.

What does this mean in practice?

In monetary terms, if we use the following assumption:
Using 1000W for 1hr consumes 1kWh which costs about 10p
then, 10W for 10hr works out at 1p

So in RED led state, it costs 1p to run for 100hrs, which equates to about 88p per year.

In YELLOW led state, it costs 10p every 100hrs, which equates to £8.80 per year.

In GREEN led state, it costs 20p every 100hrs, which equates to £17.60 per year.

If on average you play for one hour a day, and leave the Wii on YELLOW at other times, you'll be paying £9.17 per year....so about a tenner.

If you do the same amount of gaming, but instead leave the Wii on RED standby when not in use, it's only £1.57 per year.

calculation = {1/24th of 17.60 [play 1hr per day]}+{23/24th of either £8.80 or 88p [rest of the time on standby]}

According to VGchartz, about 6.57 million Wii's have been sold to date....giving a total cost (based on the above play time) of 60.2 million squid consumed worldwide when using the YELLOW mode, as opposed to (if you do the maths) only 10.3 million squid if everyone left theirs on RED....

....makes you think how much could be saved (by everyone together) if we switched off our electronic equipment properly (and that goes for other non-Wii stuff too )...




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Old 02-05-2007, 09:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow - traffic lights spring to mind...!

As I was reading the thread... I was thinking, exactly what your thread concluded - people should not leave things on standy...!

I saw on "Devils Den" I think it is called on BBC2 where a couple of these made a power plug that switches off anything that is in standby or something like that, it looked pretty impressive and a great idea.

Im still surprised manufactures are producing electrical items with standy, I know that TV's soon will not be allowed to have a standy function. More info here: TV standby buttons will be outlawed-News-UK-TimesOnline

I have given this a digg, well worth it! great read as always!


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Ahhhhh Dragons Den...! :-(


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Old 02-05-2007, 09:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Interesting read indeed, although I got lost a few times .. too many co,ours to contend with Anyway, I dont see the point in leaving your wii on standby mode anyway, and at the moment still dont understand the point of wiiconnect24.

Why would you need a 24 hour internet connection, your asleep, or working for most of it, sure it glows blue when you get a message, but the novelty soon wears off when you awoken at 3am by a blue room.

Save your cash, although not a bank busting amount, turn it off


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A bit off topic I know but does anyone know how much juice cable/sky boxes use when in use. The reason I ask is that mine is constantly on as I always forget to put it on standby.

I'm guessing that it's probably even more than the Wii.

I'm dreading my next Leccy bill. lol

RE: TV's on standby - Apparently, when you leave your telly on standby it uses 60% of the power that it uses whilst in use!



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Cheers.

The Wii is apparently designed with low power use in mind, so i dread to think what my Telly would be doing too.

The only thing that's kept on routinely nowadays for me is my router and modem.

The skybox and freeview box and vcr all go into standby (there is no physical "turn off" switch at the front of 'em)....leaving everything else off completely (either from mains or from front panel switch).



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Old 03-05-2007, 06:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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excellent report gaffer but i just can't stop thinking that you may have too much spare time on your hands
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excellent report gaffer but i just can't stop thinking that you may have too much spare time on your hands
Believe it or not, some "relaxing number crunching" between revision sessions was what prompted it (sad I know )



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Old 04-05-2007, 03:08 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Very interesting calculations there.

Although part of me likes to leave everything on standby, simply to annoy the lefty types that are always telling me I can save the world buy switching things off.

Having said that, I have too many annoying little lights coming from electrical equipment at night already, so maybe I'll start switching the plug up from now on.


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To make it illegal to have standby button on your TV is just bolshevism. Educate not criminalate (sorry, that doesnt work ) I for one always turn my TV off because it's a 28" wide CRT and even on standby it consumes about 20W!!! When powered on these TV's can eat 90-100W depending on whats on the screen at the time. When I have a spare £600 I will get a new TV. No actually I wont, I'll buy a projector. The TV rarely gets used anyway, and only now because I bought the Wii.

You know, my Athlon XP3200 PC used to consume 170W, and when I changed to a Mac (mini) which is just as quick, I found that the Mac only used ~25W This is one of the reasons its on 24/7.

(I will disable WC24 when I get home )




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